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akeed
Joined: 22 Jul 2005
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 Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 6:55 am Post subject: Can't keep all the tests straight |
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Can somebody tell me the differences between the various tests out there? Why are the Cambridge tests (First Participate, CAE, Proficiency) generally considered better than the ETS tests such as TOEIC, TESOL (Test of English to Foreign Lerners), and IELFS (the one with the big speaking element).
I'm TOEFL certified (four-week LIVE, not on-line, course) and trying to teach my students which tests to take. Are any of the tests more geared towards European, Arab, or Asia markets?
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PittsburghPete
Joined: 05 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 6:12 pm Post subject: God Save The TOEIC (or not) |
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| akeed wrote: | | Why are the Cambridge tests (First Participate, CAE, Proficiency) generally considered better than the ETS tests such as TOEIC . . . |
Folks, does your ESL school either administer the TOEIC or prepare students for it?
There's an interesting entry over on our pal EFL Geek's blog about the drawn-out, painful dying death of the TOEIC. Now, I know darn well that the admins here don't fully appreciate too many off-site links so I'll just blockquote some of it for ya'll here.
| EFL Geek wrote: | [below is a] Chosun article detailing The End of the Road for TOEIC. I have always stated that the TOEIC test is a fundementally useless test for indicating communicative English ability. However in Korea (and probably elsewhere) TOEIC scores are used to determine success of job applicants and the difference of 10 points or less could decide ones future career, so it is good to read the following [from the article]:
Korea is the world’s last bastion of the Test of English for International Communication or TOEIC, but the compromised test may at last be on its way out. Some 12 corporations including GS Retail have dropped a TOEIC score requirement for job applicants, and three others like Doosan had lowered the minimum requirement, according to a survey of 27 major companies. SK, Industrial Bank of Korea and Pantech & Curitel also did away with test score requirements from the second half of the year, while Samsung Electronics and LG Electronics lowered the barrier.
"Until last year, we required applicants to have TOEIC scores of 830 and above, but we judged that the TOEIC isn’t an appropriate indicator of actual English skills, so we stopped asking for TOEIC scores from the second half,” says Lee Jeong, the head of personnel at Industrial Bank of Korea. |
Sorry readers but this information just makes me a little "verklempt." "TOEIC on the way out!" - DISCUSS!
P. Pete
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