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Any successful Canadians working in the US on a NAFTA visa?

 
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onewarmline



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 6:33 am    Post subject: Any successful Canadians working in the US on a NAFTA visa? Reply with quote

Hello, all.

I'm a Canadian ESL teacher, BA in English, TESOL Diploma (not an MA), both from Canadian institutions.

I'm intending to do my MA next year, and try my luck in the US on a NAFTA visa. Would US universities recognize Canadian or Australian or British MA TESOL degrees?

Is this pie in the sky? Any success stories out there?

Any input gratefully received.

*PM me if you know what famous Canadian song my nic comes from
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any yays or nays? I thought I'd revive this thread and see if anyone responds...
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 5:41 pm    Post subject: Canadian diplomas in the US. Reply with quote

onewarmline wrote:
Any yays or nays? I thought I'd revive this thread and see if anyone responds...


Onewarmline,

Is your question about U.S grad programs accepting a Canadian BA or MA?

If you're referring to officially sanctioned university diplomas, my immediate guess is that your BA will be acceptable for U.S. grad programs for the most part. Keep in mind, however, that every university grad school has its own rules for what it considers a prerequisite to get into their graduate programs.

The only thing to do, really, is to contact the department of the grad program you'd like to apply for directly. Telephone or email the secretary or contact person listed on the website and ask to speak to someone who "knows" for sure.

My university has graduate students who did their bachelor's degrees (and master's degrees) from various countries, so it is indeed possible. Don't take my word for it though, check for yourself.

The program I am referring to is HERE. In addition to the MA in TESOL, there is also a Ph.D degree in TESOL available.

Good luck!

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 2:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lee,

Thank you for the link to IUP. I'll research it more.

I'm rearching MA TESOL programs around the US, and not being too selective about where at the moment.

Another two questions -

First, are there distinctions made about where you did your MA? I mean, do college hiring committees regard MAs from some schools more highly than others? I 'm trying to get an insight into the culture, being a foreigner from the Great White North (Canada, if you are unfamiliar with that appelation).

And second, will colleges hire a Canadian (read foreign) MA TESOL graduate? I know there are visas available for the purpose, but will US colleges hire foreign teachers into TESOL teaching positions?

The reason I'm asking the pesky questions is that Canadian colleges and university English language institutes will take me with an MA from a Canadian, US or British institution, but I hear US unis want US grads (read a message to that effect somewhere else on the forum...where? I'll look for that). I'm just weighing my options.

Any information gratefully received.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 5:45 am    Post subject: Canadian academics working in the U.S. Reply with quote

Hi Onewarmline,

onewarmline wrote:
I'm rearching MA TESOL programs around the US, and not being too selective about where at the moment.


That's good, keep your options open. IUP is about 3.5 hours from Buffalo if that gives you some idea of how far from the Canadian border you'd be.

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are there distinctions made about where you did your MA? I mean, do college hiring committees regard MAs from some schools more highly than others? I 'm trying to get an insight into the culture, being a foreigner from the Great White North (Canada, if you are unfamiliar with that appelation)


I'm as familiar with that term as much as Geddy Lee was when he sang the song of the same name with those two goofballs from SCTV.

To answer your question, sure. There are always situations where some hiring committee is going to be looking for a first tier education (Oxford, Cambridge, Sorbonne, American Ivy Leagues like Harvard, Yale, Princeton, etc.) and some that will settle for whatever. That's just part of academia, I don't think it's necessarily an American university trait.


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will colleges hire a Canadian (read foreign) MA TESOL graduate? I know there are visas available for the purpose, but will US colleges hire foreign teachers into TESOL teaching positions?


Until recently there were professors (Ph.Ds, mind you) in the TESOL department teaching TESOL grad courses who were not American citizens.

For example, Dr. David Hanauer got his Ph.D. from Bar Ilan University, which is in Israel, I believe. I also think that he is an Israeli citizen. He just gave a great TESOL symposium (see link HERE).

Also in the IUP English dept. is Dr. John L. Marsden, who got his doctorate from Ohio U but, as far as I know, is a British Citizen.

Dr. Lilia Savova, who is the coordinator of the Master of Arts in TESOL, is Bulgarian and got her Ph.D from Sofia University.

Dr. Lingyan Yang, who is from China, teaches English Lit. at IUP.

So, I'd say there's probably room for a Canadian professor somewhere with the right credentials. As far as I know, however, TESOL programs like the one at IUP don't normally hire M.A.s to teach full time and I think that's going to be your primary problem in a lot of places in this country. The market is simply flooded with M.A.s at the moment (read: the MA is the new BA). There are more factors that go into what gets an academic of any nationality a job in an American university than just citizenship (read: area of specialization).

Some of our working Adjuncts, Temps and T.A.s (all Ph.D. students) though are not U.S. citizens such as Ghada Sasa, Al-Momani Husam and Abdel Soliman, for example. (see list of facutly HERE)

So, like I said before, check with the universities themselves and quit listening to bad advice!

Let us know how you search turns out. Please share your findings on this forum!

Best,

Lee
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lee,

Thank you for the advice.

To have Dr. in front of my name would be really cool, but I think I'll start with getting my MA first Smile

I've given myself a year lead-time to get applications out. You know what - I will keep you updated. Maybe my experience will be an interesting read for other grad school hopefuls.

PS Nobody's taken up the challenge - which song does my nick come from? Any takers? A Meiji chocolate bar will be sent to you in the mail Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:26 pm    Post subject: Lee's Guess Reply with quote

Ok Onewarmline,

Like the Charlie Daniel's Band's "Johnny," "it might be a sin, but I'll take that bet and you're gonna regret . . ."

My guess is that your name is from the Canadian folk musician Stan Rogers's song/poem, "Northwest Passage," which has a chorus that goes a little something like this:


Stan Rogers wrote:
Ah, for just one time I would take the Northwest Passage
To find the hand of Franklin reaching for the Beaufort Sea;
Tracing one warm line through a land so wild and savage
And make a Northwest Passage to the sea.


Find the full song lyrics online HERE

Did I get what you were looking for?

Best wishes,

Lee
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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 5:24 am    Post subject: One Meiji Bar coming up Reply with quote

Would you like the dark or the milk chocolate? Smile
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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 5:48 am    Post subject: Re: One Meiji Bar coming up Reply with quote

onewarmline wrote:
Would you like the dark or the milk chocolate? Smile


Ooh! I likes the Dark Chocolate! Razz

And they said this job didn't come with perks!

Thanks!

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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 10:35 am    Post subject: MA programs offered in California Reply with quote

I'm researching institutions in and around the Bay Area that have MA programs in education and TESOL.

Cal State Monterey has an MA Education degree that looks challenging, interesting and has an emphasis on multicultural education.

http://csumb.edu/site/x690.xml

The Monterey Institute of International Studies offers an MA in

TESOLhttp://language.miis.edu/tdc/matesol.html

Are these degrees attractive to future employers in California? Can an MA Ed be a door into college teaching in the state?

Any advice appreciated.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd like to see you try to get employed in Cali...... Smile

http://chronicle.com/article/From-Graduate-School-to/131795/

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